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hola karkian!karkian escribió:Creatina,ami personalmente si me convence.
Osea que si compensa! en cifras "hipoteticas" podriamos decir que si te ayudase a ganar 4 kilos al dejar de tomarla nos quedariamos en 2 !sebarc escribió:Se pierde fuerza (resistencia) y agua. Pero de todas formas durante el tiempo que consumiste creatina ganaste más músculo que si no la hubieras consumido y ese músculo no se pierde al dejar de tomarla.
lo que es posible que tenga razon sebarc y algo quede, en mi caso note una subida tomandola y una bajada al dejarla, no puedo valorar si la perdida fue total pero si notoria Effect of Creatine supplementation and resistance-exercise training Wed muscle insulin-like growth factor in young adults.
Burke DG, Candow DG, Chilibeck PD, MacNeil LG, Roy BD, Tarnopolsky MA, Ziegenfuss T. Burke DG, Candow DG, Chili Beck PD, MacNeil LG, Roy BD, Tarnopolsky MA, Ziegenfuss T.
Department of Human Kinetics, St. Francis Xavier University, Antigonish, NS, Canada. Department of Human Kinetics, St. Francis Xavier University, Antigonish, NS, Canada.
The purpose of this study was to compare changes in muscle insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) content resulting from resistance-exercise training (RET) and creatine supplementation (CR). The purpose of this study was to compare changes in muscle insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) content resulting from resistance-exercise training (RET) and Creatine supplementation (CR). Male (n=24) and female (n=18) participants with minimal resistance-exercise-training experience (=1 year) who were participating in at least 30 min of structured physical activity (ie, walking, jogging, cycling) 3-5 x/wk volunteered for the study. Male (n = 24) and female (n = 18) participants with minimal resistance-exercise-training experience (= 1 year) who were participating in at least 30 minutes of structured physical activity (ie, walking, jogging, cycling) 3 -- 5 x / wk volunteered for the study. Participants were randomly assigned in blocks (gender) to supplement with creatine (CR: 0.25 g/kg lean-tissue mass for 7 days; 0.06 g/kg lean-tissue mass for 49 days; n=22, 12 males, 10 female) or isocaloric placebo (PL: n=20, 12 male, 8 female) and engage in a whole-body RET program for 8 wk. Participants were Randomly assigned in blocks (gender) to supplement with Creatine (CR: 0.25 g / kg lean-tissue mass for 7 days; 0.06 g / kg lean-tissue mass for 49 days, n = 22, 12 males, 10 female) or isocaloric placebo (PL: n = 20, 12 male, 8 female) and engage in a whole-body RET program for 8 wk. Eighteen participants were classified as vegetarian (lacto-ovo or vegan; CR: 5 male, 5 female; PL: 3 male, 5 female). Eighteen participants were classified as vegetarian (LACTO-ovo or vegan; CR: 5 male, 5 female; PL: 3 male, 5 female). Muscle biopsies (vastus lateralis) were taken before and after the intervention and analyzed for IGF-I using standard immunohistochemical procedures. Muscle biopsies (vastus lateralis) were taken before and after the intervention and analyzed for IGF-I using standard immunohistochemical procedures. Stained muscle cross-sections were examined microscopically and IGF-I content quantified using image-analysis software. Stained muscle cross-sections were examined microscopically and IGF-I content Quantified using image-analysis software. Results showed that RET increased intramuscular IGF-I content by 67%, with greater accumulation from CR (+78%) than PL (+54%; p=.06). Results showed that RET increased intramuscular IGF-I content by 67%, with greater accumulation from CR (78%) than PL (+54%, p =. 06). There were no differences in IGF-I between vegetarians and nonvegetarians. There were no differences in IGF-I between vegetarians and nonvegetarians. These findings indicate that creatine supplementation during resistance-exercise training increases intramuscular IGF-I concentration in healthy men and women, independent of habitual dietary routine. These findings indicate that Creatine supplementation during resistance-exercise training increases intramuscular IGF-I concentration in healthy men and women, independent of habitual dietary routine.
Absolutamente nada de eso.Suelen variar mucho los resultados con la creatina.hola karkian!
¿no te pasa que al dejar de tomarla pierdes lo ganado en fuerza y en volumen? el volumen al perder el liquido acumulado
-Si sebarc,si no niego que tenga muchos efectos beneficiosos mientras se toma,pero hay muchas personas que comentan que al dejarla vuelven a tener la misma fuerza que cuando no la tomaban y que pierden bastante del volumen cogido al perder liquidos retenidos!sebarc escribió:La creatina esta muy estudiada y sus efectos estan ampliamente comprobados. Es uno de los mejores suplementos que existen. Por ejemplo uno de sus muchos efectos es incrementar la IGF-1 (intramuscular)
Entonces me dices que cuando dejas de tomarla sigues con ese plus de fuerza,y mantienes el volumen ganado?karkian escribió: Absolutamente nada de eso.Suelen variar mucho los resultados con la creatina.
Si seguro que al dejar de tomarla se pierde liquido, la creatina además voluminiza las células con agua pero de todas formas la masa muscular ganada con la creatina no se pierde. Lo que se pierde es el liquido, o sea se gana más masa muscular con creatina que sin ella.NiXoN escribió: -Si sebarc,si no niego que tenga muchos efectos beneficiosos mientras se toma,pero hay muchas personas que comentan que al dejarla vuelven a tener la misma fuerza que cuando no la tomaban y que pierden bastante del volumen cogido al perder liquidos retenidos!
Si.Entonces me dices que cuando dejas de tomarla sigues con ese plus de fuerza,y mantienes el volumen ganado?