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SHOOT en madrid?

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 15:47
por Ivan
Hola a todos los foreros.

Alguien sabria decirme algun sitio donde se haga Shoot o Shootfighting en madrid?y cual es la diferencia, si la hay, entre ambos estilos?
Gracias por anticipado

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 16:04
por vlc kid

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 16:18
por Einherjar
Gimnasio Metropolitano.

c/ Aravaca, 7.

Martes y Jueves de 20:30 a 21:30 (la media hora previa a la clase se aprovecha para hacer combate).

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 16:59
por EL SINCHI
Einherjar, te hago presente el articulo 35 Ley 32/88

S.H.O.O.T y Shootfighting y sus correspondientes logotipos, son Marcas Registradas; lo que permite ejercer, ante los órganos Jurisdiccionales, las acciones civiles o penales correspondientes contra quienes lesionen su derecho y exigir las medidas necesarias para su protección.

La persona interesada esta preguntando por la academia S.H.O.O.T, no por tu Gimnasio. Espero que te expliques bien en tu respuesta y no hagas pasar tu negocio por algo que no tiene nada que ver con S.H.O.O.T ni Shootfighting, ante cualquier duda para los interesados consultar las siguientes paginas web donde indican las ubicaciones de las academias autorizadas:

http://shootunion.com
http://www.shootfightingspain.com

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 17:24
por SanShou
Creo esta bastante claro que la persona interesada pregunta por shoot/shooto/shootfighting/shootwrestling y no por la academia, solo por el estilo, posiblemente porque no tenga claras las diferencias entre ellos. en mi opinion sobran las advertencias del tipo "no hagas pasar tu negocio por algo que no tiene nada que ver con S.H.O.O.T" porque dudo mucho que sea el negocio de nadie que escriba en este foro.

Un saludo

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 17:39
por Snake
EL SINCHI escribió:Einherjar, te hago presente el articulo 35 Ley 32/88

S.H.O.O.T y Shootfighting y sus correspondientes logotipos, son Marcas Registradas; lo que permite ejercer, ante los órganos Jurisdiccionales, las acciones civiles o penales correspondientes contra quienes lesionen su derecho y exigir las medidas necesarias para su protección.

La persona interesada esta preguntando por la academia S.H.O.O.T, no por tu Gimnasio. Espero que te expliques bien en tu respuesta y no hagas pasar tu negocio por algo que no tiene nada que ver con S.H.O.O.T ni Shootfighting, ante cualquier duda para los interesados consultar las siguientes paginas web donde indican las ubicaciones de las academias autorizadas:

http://shootunion.com
http://www.shootfightingspain.com
Joder tio, ¿se te ha ido un poco la olla?
Deberias leer bien la pregunta que hacen. :o

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 19:02
por valetudo
EL SINCHI escribió:Einherjar, te hago presente el articulo 35 Ley 32/88

S.H.O.O.T y Shootfighting y sus correspondientes logotipos, son Marcas Registradas; lo que permite ejercer, ante los órganos Jurisdiccionales, las acciones civiles o penales correspondientes contra quienes lesionen su derecho y exigir las medidas necesarias para su protección.

La persona interesada esta preguntando por la academia S.H.O.O.T, no por tu Gimnasio. Espero que te expliques bien en tu respuesta y no hagas pasar tu negocio por algo que no tiene nada que ver con S.H.O.O.T ni Shootfighting, ante cualquier duda para los interesados consultar las siguientes paginas web donde indican las ubicaciones de las academias autorizadas:
De primeras Einherjar no es profesor, ni es su gimnasio donde imparte shooto o shoot como leches se llame Si te informas el shooto tiene unos cuantos añitos mas que el shoot inventado por el señor iglesias. Si le da la gana el señor Einherjar va a poner lo que le salga del miembro, si quieres algo, le denuncias aunque ya te digo yo que no vas a conseguir nada. Ahora que me acabas de poner en bandeja, si quieres doy un poco de mala imagen de tu academia ( aunque mucha gente ya tiene dicha imagen, ya que hay cada uno por ahí ), aunque no lo haré por que tengo amigos en dicha academia y no quiero perjudicarles, aunque todo el mundo saben como es el señor jefe de dicha academia, si quieres hacer el tonto sigue diciendo todas esas chorradas de logotipos y marcas, y acabareis teniendo peor publicidad y no por mi, si no por que hay mucha gente en contra de el cabezilla de shoot.

Un saludo.

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 19:07
por valetudo
Por cierto, le van a multar por poner:

Gimnasio Metropolitano.

c/ Aravaca, 7.

Martes y Jueves de 20:30 a 21:30 (la media hora previa a la clase se aprovecha para hacer combate).




En un foro ??? jajjaa

En fín, bajate los humos tio, que aqui estabamos todos tan felices y comiendo perdizes. :2gunfire: :2gunfire:

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 19:26
por J.J.
Joer!!! para abrir la web tuve que llamar a mi abogado !!! :o

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 19:28
por SANKA
EL SINCHI escribió:Einherjar, te hago presente el articulo 35 Ley 32/88

S.H.O.O.T y Shootfighting y sus correspondientes logotipos, son Marcas Registradas; lo que permite ejercer, ante los órganos Jurisdiccionales, las acciones civiles o penales correspondientes contra quienes lesionen su derecho y exigir las medidas necesarias para su protección.

La persona interesada esta preguntando por la academia S.H.O.O.T, no por tu Gimnasio. Espero que te expliques bien en tu respuesta y no hagas pasar tu negocio por algo que no tiene nada que ver con S.H.O.O.T ni Shootfighting, ante cualquier duda para los interesados consultar las siguientes paginas web donde indican las ubicaciones de las academias autorizadas:

http://shootunion.com
http://www.shootfightingspain.com
Esto ya es el colmo de la soberbia y los despropositos :2gunfire: :2gunfire: :2gunfire: :sleeping: :2gunfire: :2gunfire: :2gunfire:

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 19:29
por valetudo
Si es que .... caen sobre su propio peso.

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 19:57
por Invitado
HAY UNA COSA MUY GRACIOSA EN SHOOT, O PERDON S.H.O.O.T "marca registrada" y es q el señor iglesias hace entrevistas antes d q alguien se introduzca en su NEGOCIO, por si es mala gente, y despues tiene a cada criminal dentro que te puedes morir...SEGUN GENTE DE S.H.O.O.T "marca registrada" LOS DEL SAD NO PUEDEN COMPETIR EN COMPETICIONES OFICIALES FUERA DE ESPAÑA,PORQUE EL SAD NO ES UNA MARCA REGISTRADA,Y A TODOS ESOS LES DIGO Q ECHEN UN VISTAZO EN LE WEB DE THE FURY Y VERAN CAMPEONATO EN PARIS,O CAMPEONATO EN ROMA...CON TODAS VUESTRAS MARCAS LEGALES!!!!!

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 21:04
por Einherjar
Espero que te expliques bien en tu respuesta y no hagas pasar tu negocio por algo que no tiene nada que ver con S.H.O.O.T ni Shootfighting

a) No tengo por qué explicar NADA a NADIE si no me sale de las narices. ¿Estamos?

b) No tengo negocio propio y lo que he dado es la dirección de uno de los gimnasios a los que asisto como ALUMNO de la especialidad Shooto. ¿Estamos, lumbreras?

c) Si tienes algún problema (dejando, claro está, la obvia oligofrenia con la que has nacido), puedes llamar a tu abogado o a Santa Claus (a mí me la sudas). ¿Estamos, niñato?

Y mejor no me calientes más que esto puede acabar muy mal para tí.

Por cierto, gilipollas, no veo que aquí se haga mención alguna de tu mierda de academia:
History of Shootfighting.
The origin of current shoot-style wrestling can arguably be traced back to April 10, 1984, when a group of professional wrestlers, led by Akira Maeda, formed the Japanese group UWF. A couple of months after that, Satoru Sayama, who had already gained an immense success as the original Tiger Mask in New Japan Pro Wrestling, and Kazuo Yamazaki joined UWF. With the later arrival Yoshiaki Fujiwara and Nobuhiko Takada, the group moved from professional wrestling into a stiffer, stronger style. The outcomes of the matches were predetermined, but the bruises and submissions were real.

By the end of 1985, the original UWF had broken up. On September 2nd of that year, Akira Maeda had a match with Satoru Sayama that went horribly wrong. Maeda threw several intentional kicks to Sayama's groin, and the match went from shoot-style to a true shoot, with the two men trying to kill each other. Maeda was fired from UWF. The UWF had their last show nine days later, at fabled Korakuen Hall. Many of the wrestlers were unhappy under the selfish leadership of Sayama, but didn't have the organization to keep the promotion alive when Sayama left on October 11, 1985. Many of these shoot-style wrestlers, including Fujiwara, Maeda, Takada, and Yamazaki, went back to their roots in New Japan Pro Wrestling.

The second incarnation of UWF started on November 27, 1987, when Akira Maeda (once again) intentionally kicked wrestler Riki Choshu in the face, breaking three bones. Maeda was suspended, and then fired in March of 1988. In April, Maeda, Takada, Yamazaki and others formed the new UWF. The group began to thrive with the addition of wrestlers Masakatsu Funaki and Minoru Suzuki in April of 1989. The UWF's peak came with their show "Atlantis" at Tokyo Dome on October 25, 1990, a show that pitted Akira Maeda v. Masakatsu Funaki, Nobuhiko Takada v. Yoshiaki Fujiwara, and featured wrestlers Yoji Anjoh, Naoki Sano, and American Wayne Shamrock. On December 1st, 1990, UWF president Shinji Jin fired all of the wrestlers after a show in Nagano, Japan, and disbanded the promotion.

On March 4, 1991, Yoshiaki Fujiwara formed Professional Wrestling Fujiwaragumi (PWFG) with Funaki, Suzuki, Yusuke Fuke and American Bart Vale. Shortly after that, the other two major names in Japanese shoot-style wrestling formed their own promotions. Nobuhiko Takada formed the Union of Wrestling Forces International (UWFI), using most of the leftover UWF talent. Akira Maeda created RINGS, using a lot of sambo players and kickboxers from Europe. The two Americans made important moves in 1992. One, Bart Vale captured the PWFG title, a title he would hold for the better part of three years. Wayne Shamrock left UWFI to join PWFG in 1992 as well, uniting with Funaki, Suzuki, and Yusuke Fuke.

These four men left PWFG and formed Pancrase. Led by Masakatsu Funaki, they were looking to establish a wrestling organization that had no predetermined outcomes, the first of its kind since the early days of pro wrestling in the U.S. Pancrase had their first show on September 21, 1993, and became a big success, culminating so far in their first U.S. PPV in April of 1996. With Shamrock becoming a star through his involvement in the Ultimate Fighting Championships, Pancrase has developed a lot of momentum for the future.

Without four of their major stars, PWFG started having fewer and fewer shows. Yoshiaki Fujiwara went back and appeared on professional wrestling shows for New Japan, in order to help finance PWFG. They had their "official" final show on November 19, 1995. Bart Vale has had successes with his "Shootfighting" organization apart from PWFG, and continued establishing his style with a good performance at the World Combat Championship PPV.

Currently, UWFI is enjoying a strong resurgence after nearly going out of business early in 1995. They have combined with New Japan Pro Wrestling, putting on several joint shows, including one in front of a record 67,000 fans at the Tokyo Dome. Nobuhiko Takada won the IWGP title, the top belt in the New Japan promotion, and helped save UWFI, but in the view of some fans, compromising the UWFI style.

With the burgeoning success of Pancrase and UWFI, the RINGS promotion has had a tough time in the past couple of years creating its own niche in the shoot-style market. Akira Maeda is still the icon of the promotion, but none of the Europeans brought in have been fully embraced by the Japanese fans. It will be difficult for them to return to prominence without a new, preferably young, star.

With three established shoot-style promotions in Japan, plus Sayama's "Shooto", Fujiwara's new "BattleArts", Submission Arts Wrestling, coverage of the Ultimate Fighting Championships and others, shoot appears to now be firmly entrenched as a true sport in Japan. Next stop: the United States.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Paul Herzog has been a fan of professional wrestling, boxing, and the martial arts for nearly 20 years. He is approaching blue-belt status with Carlos Machado Jiu-Jitsu in Dallas, Texas. Paul covers Texas wrestling and shoot events worldwide for the Wrestling Lariat, a newsletter encompassing the world of professional wrestling. He would like to thank Hisaharu Tanabe for providing a great deal of the information given above. Check out the Great Hisa's Puroresu Page at http://www.albany.net/~hit/puroresu/.



Yoshiaki Fujiwara

A Brief History of Shootfighting The martial art/sport of shootfighting is a recent creation. It has its genesis less than 25 years ago when a famous German wrestler taught the art of real wrestling, or "shooting", to a group of top Japanese martial artists. The wrestling they learned bore only a superficial resemblance to today's professional wrestling. Two of these Japanese martial artists, Masami Soranaka, a practitioner of karate, judo and sumo, and Yoshiaki Fujiwara, a muay Thai kick boxing champion and judo expert, combined their knowledge of these diverse styles and created what has come to be known in Japan as UWF wrestling or the hard style. Official matches have been held for almost 10 years and the sport's popularity has grown till it is now the third most popular spectator sport in Japan behind baseball and sumo. Vale, who coined the term shootfighting to describe the style, combined the wrestling and Muay Thai techniques he learned in Japan with his experience in American karate and kick boxing to advance the sport even further. He is presently attempting to promote the sport through his Miami shootfighting school and by holding regular matches in Florida and California.

Bart Vale and the Late Master Masami Soronaka



Rules

Currently professional shootfighting consists only of a heavyweight (200 pound and over) division. But there are lighter divisions for amateur competitors. Pro matches run 30 minutes non-stop, amateurs 10 minutes. Held inside a standard wrestling ring, competitors are allowed to kick, knee or elbow any part of the body except the groin, as well as head butts. Punches are allowed to the body. Since no gloves are worn to facilitate wrestling, punches are not allowed to the head, though open-hand palms, slaps and chops are. Any type of throw or takedown is legal and competitors are allowed to hit a downed opponent. Additionally, any type of joint-lock is legal as are chokes against the side of the neck. The only fouls consist of punches to the face, eye gouges, techniques against the windpipe and groin strikes. Fights are won when a competitor is knocked down for a ten-count, knocked down five times or forced to submit. A fighter caught in a submission hold may grab the ropes to break the hold but this counts as 1/3 of a knockdown. Grab the ropes 15 times and you lose. Bouts that go the full time limit are declared a draw. American martial art legends like Bill Wallace and Joe Lewis have called shootfighting the ultimate fighting style for self-defense.

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 21:17
por BELFORT
¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ OLE TUS PELOTAS, EINHERJAR !!!!!!!
ANTES DE QUE IGLESIAS FUNDARA SHOOT, RICHARD BUSTILLO ALUMNO DE BRUCE LEE, YA DABA CURSILLOS EN ESPAÑA DE SHOOTO, O SHOOTFIGHTING JAPONES DE MANO DE YORI NAKAMURA,MAESTRO DE ERIK PAULSON,S.H.O.O.T NO ES MAS QUE UNA EMPRESA!! :evil:

Publicado: 22 Ago 2003 21:37
por Pewee
Todo esto viene de la confusion shoot y shooto

A el sichi: shooto y sus variantes llevan muchos mas años k shoot en el mundo y son infinitamente mas conocidos.

No puedes hacer legalmente, nada, absolutamente nada, por k haga lo k ha hecho, lo mejor seie que pidieras disculpas y admitieras tu confusion.